Is there anyone out there that is 30 or over? Sometimes I feel like the oldest person here. If you are 30+ please reblog this.
ALLISON STOPPING PETER FROM GETTING CLOSER TO LYDIA WITH A GODDAMN ELECTRICALLY-CHARGED BATON?
ALLISON THREATENING ANY VILLAIN WHO APPROACHES LYDIA WITH DEATH?
ALLISON PROTECTING LYDIA FROM ALL AND SUNDRY?
I WILL GO DOWN WITH THIS SHIP
IF YOU SPENT TEN VERY CONFUSED MINUTES TONIGHT THINKING THAT DEREK WAS THE INCESTUOUS PRODUCT OF HIS MOTHER AND UNCLE PLEASE REBLOG.
REALLY NOT THE ONLY ONE
Irrational panty fueled sexism rage, ACTIVATE
"… like a fish needs a bicycle."
This just blew my mind and I’ve never seen forgiveness in this way.
A good way to look at it.
MIND = BLOWN
See, this is important. A lot of people see forgiveness as purely for the sake of the person they’re forgiving, and sometimes that is the case! But sometimes it’s just so you can let go and move on with your life without residual anger weighing you down.
I agree with the fictional monkey from the Lion King.
Friendly PSA that you can find peace *without* forgiveness, by being far, far away from the people who hurt you
The real question is who is the bigger nerd: Dick, Jason, or Tim.
The answer is Bruce.
I’m convinced that if Bruce’s parents had survived, the Batcave would instead be a temperature-controlled nerd sanctuary for all of his Zorro and Grey Ghost memorabilia. Bruce would be a legend at Comic-con.
This is the captain of the USS Floral Soda speaking.
USS Purple Spaghetti
USS No S’Mores
USS Graystripe spaghetti….
USS White burger
HMS Navy Apple
The… Blue-Plaid Burrito…?
USS Nude Nutella, I come in peace.
USS Blue Chips at your service
Tim confronts Ariana about the fact that she went out on a date with another boy. Ariana gets defensive and yells at Tim for all the secrets he keeps, all the late nights and unanswered phone calls. She storms off, and Tim doesn’t chase her because he’s worried about what he might say to get her back. Interestingly, he comments that he can’t give away his secrets because they’re not just his, not even just Bruce’s—they’re Gotham’s secrets. It’s a strange mentality that I don’t think we see much from Tim.
Tim takes a reckless chance to save Huntress. Tim is somewhat known for his un-recklessness—it’s one of the things that Bruce loves about him, after Jason—but when it comes to keeping his friends safe, Tim will do just about anything. I think Bruce understands this, because he doesn’t really comment; just mentions that he would have done it differently. This is one of the times that Bruce shows how well he knows Tim. He sends Tim home but is careful to tell him that it’s not because of anything Tim has done.
"Tim is somewhat known for his un-recklessness—it’s one of the things that Bruce loves about him, after Jason—but when it comes to keeping his friends safe, Tim will do just about anything. I think Bruce understands this, because he doesn’t really comment; just mentions that he would have done it differently."
Here is the thing that bugs me about Tim-Jason comparisons along the lines I just quoted: Jason took a reckless chance to try and save someone too. And that’s not what killed him.
He told Sheila his identity so she would believe his warnings about the Joker - to save her life, because people who go into business with the Joker like she did end up dead when they’re no longer useful. His mistake? Was trusting that his own mother would NOT turn around and use him as a bargaining chip to get herself out of trouble. Jason died because he couldn’t just sit by and watch his mother walk face-first into danger. He gave her a heads-up, hoping she’d think twice about what she was doing and walk away from the deal. He died because instead of listening to him, she wrapped him up as a present for the Joker.
But what people sometimes forget is that Bruce was *there*. He knew Sheila had criminal dealings going on and he went off on another case, leaving Jason behind to watch the warehouse. He honestly expected Jason to sit back and observe - to do NOTHING to save his own mother. If Tim takes a reckless chance to save a friend, what do you think he’d do if he’d had the chance to save his mother or father? I honestly can’t imagine *any* of the Batkids making a different decision than the one Jason made. Their execution might’ve been less clumsy, but every single one of them would’ve gone into that building and tried to talk sense into their family member.
The problem is that Bruce forgot that Jason is a human being. And Jason paid the ultimate price. IMHO a huge part of why Bruce treats Tim the way he does in this panel is that Bruce carries the guilt for his own mistake: not being there for Jason when he needed him most. B is trying to change because his old tactics ended with Jason dead, and it’s as much about incremental character development for Bruce as it is about “Jason and Tim are so different.”
I mean, the whole reason Bruce became Batman in the first place is because he wishes he’d been able to help his parents when they died in front of him. And then he expects Jason to sit back and watch his mother die in front of him?
Oh, no, I totally agree with you! I wasn’t trying to reference Jason’s death with that comment. You’re right, he was acting to protect his mother. It was a noble reason, and none of the other Robins (or any other hero, really) would just sit around and watch the Joker endanger a parent or loved one.
I haven’t read Jason’s entire tenure as Robin, but I have read maybe a dozen issues leading up to and including a Death in the Family. The fact is that Jason was getting increasingly reckless toward the end. That’s why Bruce benched him in the first place, which is what lead to him finding out about the whole Catherine Todd/Sheila Hayward thing. From what I’ve read it seemed fairly abrupt, something the writers started using as a way to justify the 1-800 scheme, but it was cannon. Jason was getting reckless, and he and Bruce were having problems because of it. Had Jason lived, maybe things would have changed, but the fact of the matter is that Bruce’s final memories of Jason (at least at this point) were of a boy who took unnecessary risks. That’s why I think he was so ready for Tim, who is generally cautious. As you say, though, the decision that Tim makes here is very like the one that Jason made when he went after his mother, and I certainly don’t blame either of them for it.
I’m not sure I completely agree with the way you seem to blame Bruce for Jason’s death, though. In the comics Bruce really didn’t have a choice; if I remember correctly, there were nuclear missiles on the way to start a war. Someone had to stop them, and the only transportation available could only take one. He couldn’t take Jason with him, and at the time neither of them was expecting the Joker to show up. The whole time he was gone, Bruce was constantly thinking “Jason, please wait for me, don’t do anything rash.” I’m sure if he’d had any idea that things would end up the way they did—that Jason would be forced to confront the Joker in an attempt to rescue his mother—Bruce would have found another way to handle the situation. Unfortunately neither of them could foresee that Sheila and the Joker were working together.
My point is that I don’t think it’s as simple as Jason was reckless/Tim is not reckless. I think Bruce made mistakes and he’s trying not to repeat them, so he treats Tim differently.